October 11, 2024; Former United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and University of Notre Dame President Robert A. Dowd, C.S.C. participate in a conversation titled “The Perils of U.S. Isolationism,” part of the 2024-25 Notre Dame Forum. (Photo by Matt Cashore/University of Notre Dame)

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October 11, 2024; Former United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and University of Notre Dame President Robert A. Dowd, C.S.C. participate in a conversation titled “The Perils of U.S. Isolationism,” part of the 2024-25 Notre Dame Forum. (Photo by Matt Cashore/University of Notre Dame)

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